ADBS Options

What options will be available for ADSB on the 540?

oskrypuch,

Jake,

Jake,

I'm hoping that the IFD540 will supply proper location data to my GTX330 when I add the ES option.

I still need to figure out what to use as an ADSB receiver - the GDL88 seems waaayyy too expensive (got a quote of $7000 to install).

Without excessively leading anyone on, we'll have plenty of ADS-B solutions.  More to come in the coming weeks....

maybe you need to throw that garmin junk out and go with the avidyne unit

The transponder issue is tricky for me too.

Trig and I think Becker have Mode S transponders with extended squitter.  But they both use a knob to set the code.  My wife is used to the King KT-76C and prefers separate buttons.

The Garmin GTX 330 has separate buttons but it isn't clear if or when it will work with the IFD540 or how much I'd have to pay Garmin to make it work.

The Avidyne AXP340 has individual buttons and is certain to be certified to work with the IFD540.  At $6K it is the most expensive choice by about $1500, but that's comparing retail price to street price (and who pays retail?).

Replacing the transponder would be nice because if we had ADS-B out getting traffic on the yoke mounted GPS would be cheap or free.  But it is third on the priority list, after the GPS itself and an audio panel, so depending on the costs it may be deferred to a future upgrade.

As far as I can tell the best thing to do now is to wait.  Garmin will eventually come out with their STC for ADS-B out and Avidyne will disclose their ADS-B plans.  Unfortunately I'm not very good at waiting.

For those who have a GTX330 and are thinking of upgrading to "ES" for 1200 bucks versus buying something new Garmin said that it might be a few months before all the STC moon and stars aligned allowing them to "turn on" the ES upgrade once it is made. According to them it is also dependent on other equipment STC status (WAAS enabled for their stuff for example) but at least it is moving forward. My point to this madness is if I am going to take my airplane down to install the Avidyne products I have pre-purchased I would like to incorporate as many upgrades as possible during the downtime. I, like many others, am hoping for a fairly simple transition from the GNS530/430 world to the superior Avidyne replacements while incorporating the inevitable ABS-B requirements in one swing of the bat. I know, I'm a dreamer....   

I'm in a "waiting" position, anxious to see the options. Still using XM, but have no traffic that's reliable for now, and would like to solve that one.

P.S.

mpradel wrote: Upgrading the Transponder to ES today, and some minor wiring, will get you Handheld ADSB-In traffic, for now. That is not a bad place, I've had the ES TXP since 2010 and been flying with a GDL-39 with ship power and external antenna for almost a year now.. It's great! Here is where this is a bit of a gamble: Garmin might decide to lock-up/encrypt the GTX-GNS communication protocol just as they did on 3.0 to block Connected Panel functionality.. Effectively negating the slide-in replacement feature of the IFD over the GNS. In that case, you would have to buy a new TXP from Avidyne and hope to sell the GTX-ES to an all-Garmin user. This would not surprise me!

EXTREMELY interested.

The only announcement I've seen is that Avidyne will support Capstone.

Does that mean that the IFD-540 will be able to connect to an ADS-B receiver and display traffic and weather?  If so, what suitable receivers are available?

Hi Ed,

Anything new here?  I don't really like having to look for traffic on a handheld device, but neither do I hugely want a MFD.  I'd like to feed position data from my 540 to my GTX330 after doing the ES upgrade, then display traffic on my 540.  I have TIS-A now, assume that will work from the outset until the old TIS system is shut down.

This might be a nice option to get traffic and weather on our long awaited IFD 540's

I don't know enough about the ADS600-B to comment on it effectively.

I would concur. 

Edited by oskrypuch - 18 Jan 2014 at 9:43am

DaveM,

 BTW, we've about given up on the Garmin 330 variants with respect to playing in the complete ADS-B solution.

Who is the Director of Certification?  Do you have a name?  If not, someone at Avidyne must have a name.

New AXP340 List Price is $3995 (as of 17 Jan 2014).    

Sorry guys, I did not intend my comments to be interpreted as being directed at any customer - I'm fed up with the Garmin BS that is coming from Garmin.   We have pushed against that rope for too long such that it's not worth my, or anyone's, effort to try and work with Garmin on something they've been consistently stonewalling.

Very glad to see the price reduction of the AXP 340.  That now puts it back in consideration for install along with my 540.  (I note on the Avidyne web page - price list link, it still shows as $5995.)

At the moment I'm still holding my breath for a dual function slide-in transponder before the ADS-B mandate deadline:  Mode-S ES transponder with an integrated UAT (receiver at least;  I think the technical complexity of adding UAT TX to the integrated box probably is not commensurate with the marginal operational benefit- which would be to provide own-ship traffic info to UAT-only equipped aircraft in non-radar coverage areas.)  I'd have a mandate-compliant, international and flight-level compatible ADS-B in-out solution including FIS-B.  One box, no extra interfaces, cables, or antennas. 

And of course, I'd order the Bluetooth option so I could share FIS and TIS with my tablet.

If I were young or retired, I'd already be announcing such a product...

Jon